The Thinking Man’s Guide to Donald Trump: Illegal Immigration

The Thinking Man’s Guide to Donald Trump: Illegal Immigration

I do not endorse Trump. What I do endorse is thinking and clear analysis. The day Trump announced his candidacy on June 16th, 2015, was the day the media began exposing its aversion to clear analysis and thinking. Let’s examine Trump’s seemingly controversial statement, that he still to this day, nearly a year later, is labeled a “racist” for.

 

Each statement that requires the reader to dig further and inform themselves on will be provided with a link for you to click on in this article. Please take the time to read through each one, to get a sense of what Trump meant when he made this statement. Anything in [brackets] is something I added, to add commentary or make room for additional links. All of the links are from mainstream, leftist media groups, except one long, in-depth piece by Breitbart going into gruesome details that other publications refuse to.

 

Then, please share this article with anyone you know who calls Trump a “racist” and believes he is divisive, a joke, an idiot, etc. This isn’t meant to convince anyone to vote for someone, it’s meant to bring the discourse back to clear, calm, rational discussion about major issues.

 

“When Mexico (meaning the Mexican Government) sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you (pointing to the audience). They’re not sending you (pointing again). They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us.

They’re bringing drugs.

They’re bringing crime. [This topic is not white and black. But lack of proper government statistics and ignoring the crimes committed by people who have no legal right to be in the country, who have already deported many times is wrong.]

They’re rapists. [PBS on the U.S. border rape culture] [The guardian on the U.S. border rape culture.]

[Here is a shocking, in-depth article by Breitbart about the rape culture at the border. Very hard to read.]

And some, I assume, are good people! [Keep in mind, Trump is talking about a group entirely composed of criminals knowingly entering a country illegally, and acknowledging that some must be nice people.] 

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. [This statement reminds us he is speaking about illegal immigrants, and not all Mexicans, like many outlets have spun it by cutting this part out.]

And it only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people. It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.”

 

What are your thoughts on his speech now? Leave a comment below, and don’t forget to share this with someone who could be steered back on the path of discussing these issues without calling people “racists” for wanting to talk about them.

 

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28 thoughts on “The Thinking Man’s Guide to Donald Trump: Illegal Immigration

  1. The first evidence I saw that Donald Trump was probably a good candidate for president happened very early on in his campaign when I saw who his enemies were.

    That’s more of a heuristic approach than an analytical approach, yet in a world of limited resources (especially time) heuristics are often enough.

    This post by itself is the basis for a heuristic: if you show this to someone who is accusing Trump of racism they’ll have one of two options: admit they were wrong and probably just repeating something they heard from someone else without checking it, or double down and reveal that they aren’t really interested in truth as much as they’re interested in belonging to the right crowd.

    This helps you separate the people who are able/willing to think from those who aren’t so that you don’t waste your time engaging the latter.

    1. Very well said! I’ve been spamming it around where I can and I’ve gotten people to admit they are racist, but that I must be too for “defending” him. It’s truly an interesting experience to be talking about these issues in a calm way and seeing how others react.

      Thanks for your comment!

      1. There is an epidemic of anti-thought in the world, and it’s not just in politics.

        In my day job, I have to fight the same fundamental effect every day. People in a highly technical field who don’t have the excuse of low intelligence completely shirk their responsibility to think. They repeat rumors without even the slightest bit of fact checking based on who they heard saying the rumor and which tribe they want to signal their membership in.

        When you do point out that they’ve been tricked into spreading misinformation, only rarely will they admit it, and virtually never will they make any effort to correct the problem.

        I really hope whatever mental disease is running through the West right now isn’t terminal for our civilization, because we really can’t maintain one if everyone refuses to think.

        1. That’s why it’s so hard for me to criticize Trump. Did he lie about giving money to vets, or did he literally let the media “dig up” the fact that he hadn’t yet paid them, and then specifically paid them a bit less than he promised, to get more free media coverage… bitching about the fact that he gave money to vets?

          This man is not an idiot. He didn’t forget or try to trick people by “lying” about giving money to vets. It’s not that simple. I don’t understand why this sounds crazy to most people, it’s so obvious.

          So, whatever terminal disease you refer to that’s sweeping us, I feel like this guy getting in will be the only big step towards killing it.

  2. I’m fairly certain the transcript of that speech is wrong.

    They’re should be their.

    As he’s listing them, it reads very strange for him to make a statement like that in the middle.

    1. No, this is the correct use of the word “They’re” in the article. I can tell because their is possessive, they’re is a contraction of they are, and I can read above a second grade level. Nothing worse than someone trying to be Grammar nazi and being wrong about the nit THEY’RE picking.

      1. Well actually there’s a debate going on. I just switched it because either works. Curious to see if anyone picks up on it now.

        Either way, an interesting discussion about it.

  3. He’s right everyone! Scream at their prefered flavor “spooky brown people” and how they’re ruining the country while the all knowing rich people use they’re hard inherited cash to gracefully fix the dumb regulations and laws that keep them from running the internet, over paying our work face, and help phase out that awkward middle ground between the wealthy kings and the unwashed peasants. If you’re ever worried that we might get something done in this country just remember, everyone’s vote counts.

  4. Donald Trump is a breath of fresh air. I felt nothing would ever get us out of the mess we’re in and from his first sentence I knew he was the right man. His love of America is so obvious and that feels really good. I did a little research and the man seems to like a challenge and when he starts something he knows how to finish. He makes me feel there is a light at the end of the tunnel and another plus is the fact that the power elites/Globalists in Washington hate him. He is an obstacle not only to their future plans but also to the little money train they have going in Washington. Lets pray God keeps him safe, America needs him.

  5. I believe there is a mistake in the 7th paragraph. Given the context and structure of his speech, this sentence should be transcribed as “Their rapists.” As in, “The Mexican government is sending their rapists.” This is NOT the same as the media tries to make it sound, something like, “The Mexican government is sending Mexicans, and they’re [they are] all rapists.”

  6. “Racism” was never the right word. I get that.

    However, the Wall has to be the least effective solution to these problems. It will cost at least twice as more than Trumps most recent estimate according to many experts, and there are many statistics pointing to how little of an improvement this is compared to the fence we have now. In some cases, the fence is actually better at keeping people out.

    Furthermore, many people are upset at the insensitive way he speaks. He shows no respect for anyone in any of his speeches. In the above speech, the human problems faced by immigrants come as an afterthought to rape, crime, drugs, and other often overblown topics of the media today.

    1. Really, the fence is better at keeping people out than a wall? Source please.

      I don’t think it’s overblown at all, as the links show. Quite a lot of rape going on, quite a lot of drugs, and there should be no crime from non-citizens going on in your country.

    2. The United States’s first and foremost interest in this immigration crisis is protecting AMERICAN citizens, of all backgrounds, from the criminal, economic, and social impacts of illegal immigration. Illegal immigrants cost the US taxpayer $113 billion per year according to FAIR, and they’re responsible for over $437 billion in wealth redistribution from the poorest to the wealthiest by collapsing wages, according to Harvard economist George Borjas. Illegal immigrants should be an afterthought, because not only are they harming AMERICAN taxpayers, but they are also MEXICO’S responsibility.

      If we didn’t allow ourselves to lessen our border security and shoulder the burden of Mexico’s welfare system by ignoring the problem, then there wouldn’t be so many people who have fallen through the cracks. Mexico’s government would have been forced to step up instead of profiting from the $30 billion in remittances that illegal immigrants send back home every year.

      I don’t mind the Mexican people. Hell, I’m Latino-American myself (Cuban). I’m sure the vast majority of these people are as good of a person as I am. But that doesn’t ignore the fact that they 1) broke the law when they immigrated to the United States; 2) damaged the market by destroying wages; 3) profited off of economic opportunity at the cost of American quality of life. And not only do we let in the good people, but we also let in the riff-raff as well. It’s not a sound immigration policy. Say you want more illegal immigration, sure. But NOBODY should be okay with illegal immigration.

  7. The initial premise of the government actively and officially “sending” immigrants uses the same logic leftists use to accuse Trump of racism. The government did not send them, but knew the issue was happening and took a low cost approach to promote survival and preservation of life. The people the pamphlets are for are the ones who did not use coyote’s or who are not professional border runners, drug smugglers etc. This point is moot since everyone crossing the border illegally is a criminal by definition. The misleading part of Trump’s premise is to create a disproportionate feeling that the majority of illegals are rapists and violent or engage in drug trafficking. There’s no denying that there are illegals who do those things, and you can’t deny it any more than you could deny that there are citizens who do those things. His proposition is that they all do it, with a few exceptions. Trump has no concern for what is true and what is false in his statements. He is not lying because that implies he would know the actual facts or truth to begin with. He is simply asserting his agenda, and where it does blend with the truth in some way, people who support him are quick to point it out. Where it strays further away, people are quick to ignore or dismiss. The majority of illegals are not violent nor engaged in drug trafficking. Likewise, a significant portion of immigrants enter the country legally then overstay their permits. Furthermore, legal and illegal immigration from Mexico is on the decline.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/what-we-know-about-illegal-immigration-from-mexico/

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/03/homeland-security-produces-first-estimate-of-foreign-visitors-to-u-s-who-overstay-deadline-to-leave/

    Again, it’s not that Trump is lying or wrong about any individual statement outright. There are illegal immigrants who are coming to America who will commit murder, who will rape, all of whom are innately criminal by their very being illegal. These are not false statements. Yet the message takes advantage of fear and misconception to push a misleading agenda as skewed as the perspective of the people who call him racist.

      1. “They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems to us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume are good people.” I may have interpreted this wrong. The phrasing seems to indicate that if, ‘some, I assume are good people’, then the rest are not, and fall into the previous categories.

  8. My point is that he is disproportionately misrepresenting the number of illegals who engage in or have committed those acts. He implies the majority are offenders and the minority are not.

      1. That’s the crux of his entire argument. If it were a comparably lower rate of offenders to population who were entering the country then we’d be effectively reducing violent crime by inviting these comparatively peaceful people. Furthermore it’s not my impression. He makes a very clear statement of “They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. Their rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” This is the entire point of your paper here… Explain what this means to you. Your point seems to be it doesn’t matter how many of them are committing any crime, deport them all. Fair. Why bring it up then? Fear-mongering? Otherwise is your point, regardless of deporting them all (since they are illegal), we should be focused on this more because they are a threat since there are documented cases of them committing violent crimes as well? I want to understand how you read this and why it matters. Have you really thought much about this? You seem extremely dismissive for someone who claims to be a “Thinking Man.”

        1. I’m engaging in this back and forth with you sir. But I had to pause at points that made no sense to me.

          Yes, you have to deport them. I see this as the same as having a law on theft against stores, and not deporting people who rob electronics stores. People will keep robbing electronic stores until you enforce that law all the way.

          It boggles my mind that people are killing Americans after being deported five times, and for only “far right” media to care about it. Every citizen should care about something like that. We can’t afford to jail people coming to the US illegally, but we definitely can’t afford to deport them continuously when clearly their host country isn’t doing anything to prevent that individual from coming here, both individually and structurally (and I never like to use the word structurally, but I think you know what I mean.)

          I don’t see how a wall won’t directly address this. If you have another tangible way to prevent illegals from coming, like strict enforcement of e-verify+self-deportation+no anchor babies… Then we can discuss that I guess. But the wall seems a lot easier to me.

  9. Right, so this makes you very emotional. I understand that. It makes you afraid that this could happen to you or someone you love or your fellow americans. You know you’re just as likely to be murdered or have a crime committed against you by someone who is not an illegal immigrant? They don’t have to be deported five times before it happens and it can still happen. The wall keeps the illegals out but that only matters if they’re disproportionately doing the crime. If they’re not doing it disproportionately, why does it matter what one person did or another? There’s plenty of people who will be on this side of the wall for you to worry about. What do we do about them? This is whats so misleading about Trumps rhetoric. It sure sounds good, but when the illegals are gone, are you any safer from the rest of the people around you that could rape or commit a crime against you?

    1. “It sure sounds good, but when the illegals are gone.”
      The economic implication alone is huge. The legal aspect for legal immigrants is huge. I never said I would feel safer.

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